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General Discussion / Re: Interesting Auction Items
« on: October 19, 2021, 04:13:57 PM »
The 265E is repainted - there should not be paint on the rivet for the crank.

That's a gray 4. Very hard to find. A rare export version of the gray 4 is known with Made in USA on frame and 254 stamped on the ends over the doors. Might be one of them, but you can't tell from the photos.

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General Discussion / Re: Interesting Auction Items
« on: October 17, 2021, 05:44:30 PM »
Here's a dark olive 38 loco with a strap headlight. Dark olive is an early color for the 38. Not very good shape, but maybe good enough until you spot a good one.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224651365873

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I put some flyers online you can give out at train shows or include in your ebay sales. I added a link tio every page of the site in the upper left corner so they are easy to find.

Here's another link:

Flyers To Promote The Forum

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General Discussion / Re: MTH and Lionel Classics
« on: October 17, 2021, 01:21:16 PM »
The reproductions are -- I don't want to encourage people to curse here, so I'll say crap. This is because I've handled the originals. They are not made the same way. The copies of the 1920s Lionel are closer than the early items or the IVES pieces.

That said, the paint and finish are nice. They fit together well. The ones without Protosound run well.

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General Discussion / Re: which electric engine goes with a 219 crane car?
« on: October 15, 2021, 12:46:25 PM »
The best way to learn about trains is to go out and see them. Touch them. Own them.

The books give you the basics and the jargon, but having a collector hand you a car and point out the features is the best way to learn.

Find people in your area you can visit with. You're in Canada so it is more difficult. Try looking for trains for sale on Craigslist and other sites. You can search eBay for trains near you and ask the sellers if they do local pickups. It used to be collectors would pile up trains over the year and sell Christmas sets.  Maybe someone in your area does that.


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General Discussion / Re: Getting some of my shelfs together for display
« on: October 15, 2021, 12:38:40 PM »
I like the way the shelves just hang on the wall. 


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General Discussion / Re: Ebay issues.
« on: October 15, 2021, 12:36:22 PM »
My guess is the person designing the categories is a woman. She wants a SWEATER -- BLUE made of WOOL in SIZE 4 with a V-NECK. She'd check off all the capitalized words as keywords and then scroll through results.

We collectors don't shop that way. We're opportunists who buy items that we see that fit into our collections.

I wrote listings for standard gauge junk just to get rid of it. I think people will search for Lionel standard gauge.  If I have time today I'll do some diecast cars because that category wasn't changed.

Then again with the supply chains disrupting Christmas imports, maybe I should sit on the diecast until people start Christmas shopping?

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General Discussion / Re: Ebay issues.
« on: October 14, 2021, 07:51:15 PM »
I just went to write some listings and the scales and gauges are GONE. 

So what I used to list in Toys and Hobbies/Model railroads/ho scale/other HO scale
now  goes into

Toys and Hobbies/Model railroads and trains/Railroads and trains/other railroads and trains
which has 184,000 results.

There is a drop down on the page to select gauge, but none of my old listings has that filled out. For diescast cars it's the same thing but called scale.

They have Lionel Standard gauge as one of the selections, but it's not on the main menu and has to beaccessed with the see all link at the bottom of teh drop down. Only  266 results come up for Lionel standard gauge.  A normal week had about 300-350 auctions with another 1000+ fixed  price listinsg in the standard gauge categories.


We'll figure out how to find the trains we want, but I can't be giving trains away like last time eBay messed with the categories.

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General Discussion / Re: which electric engine goes with a 219 crane car?
« on: October 13, 2021, 11:29:13 PM »

While quite common in their day, these Lionel standard gauge locos
were hard to find this time around.   
Standard gauge is no longer the standard

When the TCA was founded, the members were mostly interested in toy trains from 1900-1920. At that time, a "standard gauge" was developed. The trains were big -- standard gauge track is about 2-1/8" wide from outside rail to outside rail. By contrast, in HO gauge the rails are about 0.64 of an inch apart. Standard gauge lasted through 1929, and for a long time standard gauge trains were highly desirable.

Over time, the demand has remained high for the few top of the line examples (mostly from 1928-1929), while slowly declining for the rest. This time around we saw only two examples of those highly desirable pieces, and a dearth of other standard gauge. But then, the demographic that most wanted those pieces has passed on.  I never grew up in this era, but I think they are the coolest.

Almost all of that is wrong.

When Lionel moved to smaller trains in 1906 they copied European 3-rail track and for some reason set their own gauge as 2 1/8". Cohen was a genius marketer and when told it was different that the 2" gauge used by most other American companies at the time decided to call it "standard." Within 15 years all the American makers of 2" gauge trains either exited the train market or converted to Standard gauge. (Ives made 3-rail 1 gauge trains which ran on 1 7/8" track.)

Standard guage trains are common and quite in demand today. Some trains that were produced in small quantities are quite expensive today, but most standard gauge trains are cheap enough to be within the reach of anyone.

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General Discussion / Re: Ebay issues.
« on: October 13, 2021, 11:19:26 PM »
I've been having problems with youtube since yesterday. Looking at that I found a site called downdetector.com

https://downdetector.com/status/ebay/

People - probably not us - report when sites are down.  Here's a selection of their complaints:

https://downdetector.com/status/ebay/news/419177-problems-at-ebay/

I've had a few failures sending emails myself. Seems to be a consensus that eBay is updating functions and screwing things up.

I recommend NOT changing any bookmarks to solve the problems as they may be temporary.

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General Discussion / Re: Recent Additions
« on: October 12, 2021, 02:56:42 PM »
Mike - there was an Austrailian or New Zealander on the Yahoo Standard Gauge group who hung trains from the ceiling. That was in the 1990s.

Here's something a bit different --- a Lionel 12 gondola with the number and data stamp on the left:

 


The interesting car should have brakewheels but they are missing. The car is the same as the one above it, but for the position of the lettering. The number and the data are different stamps. These cars have no Lionel MFG embossing or identifying stamps.

I have another brown Lionel 12 with the MFG embossing in the frame.  It's shown below on the lower left:

 


The MFG embossed gondola has a different number stamp, but the data stamps are the same.

Here's the three brown gondolas:

 


All the cars have tab couplers. I think these brown cars date from between 1915 to 1918.

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I know this method will work with the Marx highway flashers. It shoild also work with the Prewar American Flyer hiway flashers.

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General Discussion / Re: which electric engine goes with a 219 crane car?
« on: October 09, 2021, 05:16:36 AM »
I agree with Jim's advice.

Get the TCA book with the BLUE cover. That's the second edition. A little more information for no additional cost.






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Here's an interesting set. The boxes are typical of what I find after years of a set sitting in an Arizona garage or attic crawl space. Any movement or force on the box causes it to fall apart.  (The two crayons i the photos were inside the 1679 Baby Ruth boxcar. You can see how they've melted due to the AZ heat.)

I like to look at the parts and try to guess when the set was made. The cars have black journals, there is not an E on the loco number plate, and the 1680 Shell tank car is orange. Those are 1939/40 features. The dull black tender means 1940.

There is no date on the setbox or the transformer  box. The instruction sheet for the transformer and the lubricant advertisement are both dated 1940. A quick look at the catalogs reveal the 1940 set came with the 1041 transformer whereas the 1939 set had a 1040 transformer.

Here's pictures.
 



"Dull black" on tender box.  This tender has a nickel plate.  By late 1941 the plates were replaced with cheaper rubber stamped lettering.

 


 


Interesting lubrication advertisement sheet dated 1940:

 


The transformer and boxed UTC lockon. There should be a bunch of track clips with this. That looks like the original black connection wires wrapped around the binding posts. They would have been in two coils inside the box with the lockon and track clips.

 


And finally, everything fits nicely into the set box. The track would have been on top, and a small U shaped cardboard insert or a wad of white paper would have been in the open area to the left of the transformer.

 




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NICE.

It's a shame when they don't get played with. It's like feeding a dog salad.

Those are painted aluminum cars. As far as I know the uncataloged sets were painted, and the cataloged ones were chrome. The 289e is uncataloged.

I had a boxed gray 289E freight set with all the boxes and the set box. I bought it on eBay in about 1998. One of my first ebay purchases. The woman didn't show the boxes in the pictures and ruined them with tape and scribbles. She shipped the set to me in the setbox with the lionel label hacked up so it was unreadable.  I could have cried when the mailman handed the box to me.




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