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Title: Lionel Early Standard Boxcars 114 and 14
Post by: starfire700 on September 13, 2020, 05:09:49 AM

In another thread, the 114 boxcar variation with CMSP lettering instead of normal CMStP lettering was brought up, mentioned that it could be an old repaint.
This is a very legitimate variation. I have 2, one has Lionel Lines large end stamp and other has Lionel MFG emboss underside, both are brownish-orange, assumed to be late Manufacturing production.

Title: Re: Lionel Early Standard Boxcars 114 and 14
Post by: starfire700 on September 13, 2020, 05:11:07 AM

There are (at least) 3 different numbers that can appear on the 114 boxcar, and different fonts were used over the span of production.

Title: Re: Lionel Early Standard Boxcars 114 and 14
Post by: starfire700 on September 13, 2020, 05:13:10 AM

Most 14 boxcars that I have seen are CM&StP

Title: Re: Lionel Early Standard Boxcars 114 and 14
Post by: starfire700 on September 13, 2020, 05:14:10 AM

I was lucky to find an orange #14 that has NYNH&HRR lettering

Title: Re: Lionel Early Standard Boxcars 114 and 14
Post by: starfire700 on September 13, 2020, 05:16:39 AM

Correction.....NYC&HRRR lettering

Title: Re: Lionel Early Standard Boxcars 114 and 14
Post by: Terry on September 13, 2020, 01:15:15 PM

I learn something every day. I'll have to start paying more attention to the names in addition to the numbers.

I have the 14 with NYC&HRRR 4351, but it was compounded and most of the lettering is gone.

Since were doing the 14 and 114 boxcars here's the ones I have that aren't already shared by Jim.


Here's a 114 CM&StP 54087. It has Lionel MFG embossed on floor, nickel plated trucks, Couplers are reattached and don't match. I think this is early and the crinkle coupler is correct.

 

Early red 14 with emboosed sides and black lines. CM&StP 9050. Cream primer with Lionel MFG embossed on underside. This is my oldest 14 boxcar.

 

 

I shared this in an earlier thread, but here it is again for completeness. Dark Green 14 made for Harmony Creamer. It has 14 and Lionel Corp stamped on bottom.