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Collector Corner / Re: Some Interesting Lionel Items
« on: August 03, 2020, 11:45:59 AM »
The orange is just a reflection. They're just regular maroon roofs.

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Collector Corner / Re: Some Interesting Lionel Items
« on: August 02, 2020, 03:49:24 PM »
Here's an interesting pair of orange 600 Pullmans. Both came with a maroon 150 and maroon roofs, no Lionel stamp on the bottom.
 


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Collector Corner / Re: Lionel 601 602 and 603 early O passenger cars.
« on: August 02, 2020, 03:34:26 PM »
That's a good question. I've only seen it on the bottom of early 601 - 602's. There are variations to the stamp.
 
 

There's also this variation of the Corporation stamp. Normal stuff just black ink.
 

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Brown roof, maroon roof always hard to tell, especially from pictures. I've got 3 brown roof 820's. 2 are shown in Greenberg's newest O gauge book.

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Mines an olive green 203 and the one unlettered 800 posted does not have clipped corners as shown. My clipped corner 800's are WABASH with maroon roofs, double stamped with wide wheels.
 

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It's an orange 800 repainted grey to match the Armored Loco. I also have a green 203. Your 601 -602 cars came from Jim Lyons. He bought Lou's stuff. I remember when Jim was auctioning off his trains due to a financial problem.
 
 

Here's an 800 with no lettering anywhere, wide wheels.
 

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This is from the Hertz collection, described on page 216 of his book "Collecting Model Trains".
 

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Yes. And it was later offered on eBay as part of a Hiawatha freight set. Most of the cars were custom painted but the 810 was original if my memory is correct.
 

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HA, Neither did I! I also saw them at YORK before they went to NETTE.
 
 
 

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Now the  152/153 story is the same as the 701/706 story. Why have 2 locomotives with the only difference being that one is reversible. When the 150 series came into being in 1917 the 701/706 became just the 154. Why carry 2 locomotives for only 2 years? Just upgrade, if you feel you must, the 152 to a reversible loco. Then you don't have to inventory two of basically the same thing. They still had the 150 for their low end / beginner outfits. Same motor with the same power as a 156, just in a smaller body. Left over 152's could be sold separate or in outfits to wholesalers which I'm sure they did with all old stock (or send it to Madison Hardware!). The reverse arm on a 153 was probably not a cheap part to produce. It had to be clinched on one end and punched to make the head that keeps the arm in the hand reverse unit. It also has to be threaded on the other end and go through a series of 3 bends. Don't forget about Nickel plating. And then there's the knob/thumb nut. Mike (not Jim)
 
   




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In regards to the gondola, it was made for an early tinplate collector by the name of D L Olney at his persistence with the Lionel factory that he wanted an "820 series" gondola. They ran a string of observation railing and attached it to a 820 boxcar frame and painted it light green.
 

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Collector Corner / Re: Catalog Cuts
« on: July 31, 2020, 05:32:45 PM »
It would be great to know if some of these items existed. Sharing what you have and have knowledge of is the best part of being a collector...of anything. I don't understand those that hide what they have instead of adding to the knowledge base.

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Collector Corner / Catalog Cuts
« on: July 31, 2020, 12:54:50 PM »
Here's a couple of interesting catalog cuts from a 1929 UNION HARDWARE & METAL catalog. I say 1929 based on the other Lionel equipment shown. Anyway, just more road names never produced, at least not that I know of.
   

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The change of address relates to the Lionel Showroom and executive offices. I don't follow how that fits your theory. In 1924 when Lionel released the 253, 254, and 256 they also released the 153. Why stock more parts and more operations to an existing loco if they were being phased out? I can understand going from wire handrails to clip on handrails as you wouldn't need stanchions or solder or the wire rod. But to upgrade from a cost standpoint for a product going away, doesn't make sense to me. By the way every Lionel color catalog from 1915 to 1926 with early square body electric O gauge locos shows them all with gold handrails even though the description says "Highly polished Nickel steel".

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