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Collector Corner / Re: Lionel Manufacturing and Corporation Stamps

« on: May 29, 2020, 07:32:32 AM »

Your pick-up is pictured and identified on page 27.

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Collector Corner / Re: Lionel Manufacturing and Corporation Stamps

« on: May 28, 2020, 08:45:39 AM »

Terry, I'm not quite sure what you mean by "long trucks". The first O gauge trucks were the "half moon" trucks like on the car in your first picture. That 602 baggage is not the first one. The earliest 602 baggage has NO door handles, yours does have door handles. The one you show is possibly the 2nd or 3rd. That depends on the trucks and car bottom combination. The half moon trucks had no tangs so they were 'free wheeling". The earliest car bottoms had no curved slots for a tang to fit in as they were not needed. The 2nd body style had the tang slot to accommodate the tang on the common early truck like on your 2nd picture and door handles. So if your body has the handles, which it does, and half moon trucks, which it does,  then depending whether your car bottom has slots or no slots, yours is a 2nd or 3d generation car.

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Collector Corner / Re: Lionel Lines paper stamp

« on: May 26, 2020, 04:58:22 PM »

Terry - I have 2 early outfits with boxes. One has the stamp near the 42. The other box does not.  I have a picture or two of other boxes with the sticker in the same area, one being Standard gauge. I also have a pic of the stamp inside the cab of a 5 or 6. I don't remember which. I'd post pics but apparently mine are too big.

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Collector Corner / Re: Lionel Lines stamp

« on: May 26, 2020, 09:18:20 AM »

As far as I know, the last use of this stamp in O gauge was on the maroon 610 612 passenger cars included with a 156X in Outfit 169. This Outfit was available through 1924. The last appearance on O gauge freight cars was 1918. Some 700, 701, and 706 Loco's have this stamp. I have not seen it on a 703.  You can find it on dark green 600 Pullmans. It was on the dark green 610-612 cars with hook couplers. I do not have nor have I observed the stamp on Mojave cars or dark green cars with combination or latch couplers, only on hook coupler 610 and 612's. I also know of the stamp on a 601.

Mike

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Collector Corner / Re: Early Lionel O locos with GOLD handrails 150 and 700 series

« on: May 18, 2020, 12:30:05 PM »

I believe the gold handrails were applied to loco's that were for some reason not regular production, either in parts used or not used, also on those that were part of a special, perhaps DSS, or non-regular production set. Not regular production would include odd color locos be they factory repaints or colored locos used in production sets. I have a boxed 164 set with a 154 with orange cars and a 162 set with a 152 and orange cars. Both locos have gold handrails. Besides these special sets and odd color loco's in my collection I also have a 154 stamped 152 with no reverse which has gold handrails which would also fall into the not regular production category. I'm not sure I agree with your 2nd or 3rd reasons.