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General Discussion / Re: My prewar at my daughters house

« on: January 05, 2021, 04:29:35 PM »

You can't beat the price.
My Bro in law worked a payloader for the town dump for many years.
He would sit in his machine and watch people drop off stuff, after they left he would go thru the pile and save what he could.
I don't believe what some toss out!
He gave me some trains he found, he took so many items that he had to go out and rent a storage unit to hold all of the things he found. 

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing to say

« on: January 05, 2021, 04:11:32 PM »

I am not a painting expert but some primers are not compatible with other brand paints.
If your using Rustoleam I would stick with a Rustoleum primer, the same for Krylon.
A lot of paints in a rattle can are now top coat & primer.
I have recently been using Krylon black, primer and top coat, not on trains but I like the results.
By the way Krylon is a product of Sherwin Williams. Sherwin Williams took over Valspar products too.

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Collector Corner / Re: PREWAR/POSTWAR DINERS. O or Standard gauge.

« on: January 04, 2021, 12:48:14 PM »

You ever see any Standard gauge diners?
I guess one could be made up out of an old diner car.
I saw one, but don't know if it was made up or factory produced.

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Layouts / Re: POST YOUR BRIDGES on Layouts

« on: January 04, 2021, 12:44:57 PM »

Yes, that is it, Junior Bridge Company of Ridgefield Park, New Jersey. Not too far from the Lionel plant that was in Irvington, NJ.
Did some googling.

Shelfs on the wall? I didn't think of that.

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Collector Corner / Re: PREWAR/POSTWAR DINERS. O or Standard gauge.

« on: January 04, 2021, 10:57:22 AM »

Right after I received the diner, I was looking for some history on them.
I went into my den to research it and a magazine fell off the pile I had of old CTT magazines. I picked it up and the first page it opened to was this one.
So I took a picture.
No lie, spooky?

These are all un-cataloged but the Red #442.

The top upper left is made from a #617 coach. (made from 1935-1941)
The top middle is the #442 ( the only one that is cataloged, made from 1938 - ?.)

The top right is an Ives #1691. Observation car.
Bottom far right is Ives #1693. Observation car. (these became part of the Lionel line)

Bottom left is the #617
There is one other known to be around, the #637 coach (not shown) is is the same as the #617 but the colors are different. The coach was part of Lionel's City of Denver streamlined set. it was yellow and brown.

The #1691 Ives is the most difficult one to find today. Followed by the #1693.

I have never seen any but the #442.
A few think that the un-cataloged diners were made by Madison hardware during the war years as they had a surplus of them.

The only thing I wish was included with my #442 is the top diner sign.
They never made any for the #442.
I might make my own to add.

So....if you ever see one besides the #442 snatch it up! And PM me right away. 

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Layouts / Re: POST YOUR BRIDGES on Layouts

« on: January 04, 2021, 10:49:09 AM »

You got to tell me about the bridge first. 

My layout is in pieces all over the basement...........long story.
Little by little I am getting it together again.
I will eventually start a Layout thread.

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Collector Corner / PREWAR/POSTWAR DINERS. O or Standard gauge.

« on: January 04, 2021, 10:43:17 AM »

Post your Diners here, O or Standard gauge.
Prewar & Postwar.


My #442.
Prewar #442 Diner Made from 1938 - 1942 until the war was declared and factories went into war mode.

It took Lionel until 1938 to introduce it's first version of that truly American landmark, The roadside diner.
Lionel's # 442 was an accurate representation of the old railroad cars that you saw along the highways. NJ had a whole bunch of them. 
It measures 10,1/2 x 5,1/2 x 3 inches and uses the body from a Lionel # 610 Pullman.
Lionel painted, or repainted, these Pullmans- giving them bright red roofs, light red trim, and ivory bodies. Because Lionel had never produced the # 610 in "diner" colors. The plates of the 610 were also changed. The large center one now read "DINER" and the small plates to the left and right now read "EAT".
The body is mounted on a hard-board, free-form base, the bottom which is screen backed. (The board was most likely manufactured by Masonite Company.)
The little diner was landscaped (but only in the front) with two shrubs and a grassy, green sawdust lawn surrounded by hedges. The hedges ran from the left door to the right one.
The 442 was illuminated. (recommended to be run at 12 volts.)

Is it the only Prewar Diner they made? Well that's open to debate as a few have popped up through the years.
But none using the 610 bodies.
And the #442 is the only one that was cataloged.


Took me around 5 months to find what I was looking for. Watching on e bay. I refused to go over my max. I am glad I waited.
This one is complete in nice shape and complete. Though it may be a little dusty now. 



 

 

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Layouts / POST YOUR BRIDGES on Layouts

« on: January 04, 2021, 10:08:16 AM »

Post the bridges you have, on or off the layout.

I have a few I can post.
I pulled out this first, I don't really know the manufacturer or year.
Measures 26" Long
5 1/4" wide
& 5 1/2" to the top of the tower.
This one is naturally weathered.
Has two red lights/bulbs up top.
I like it, don't know about painting yet as it has a nice patina now, maybe add some rust and use it either as a train bridge or a vehicular bridge without painting it. 
Anyone recognize it?
This one needs a home somewhere, I took it down off a shelf.


 

EDIT,
IF THIS IS POSTED IN THE WRONG PLACE YOU CAN MOVE IT? RIGHT?

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General Discussion / Re: Introductions

« on: January 03, 2021, 03:07:12 PM »

The more Prewar the better, the older too.
There are not too many sites for Prewar info.

Someone started a site and a few of us got it going by adding pictures and fixes.
Then after a year the guy who started it went AWOL.
After some internet sleuthing we found his email and emailed him.
Still wouldn't answer the emails, someone found his phone number and got a hold of his sister.
She said he just lost interest and abandoned the site.
We did try to buy the site but he didn't want to sell, don't know why it was strange the way he just went MIA.
We all were making the site come alive.

I have little Prewar. I am mainly Postwar, I have very little new fangled electronic trains.
Most of mine are saves from the dumps or buy and fix it's.

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General Discussion / Re: Standard gauge & O gauge track?

« on: January 03, 2021, 02:52:26 PM »

See if this works, guy has an article in Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=4677057797311&set=a.4676916393776.2161221.1019706503

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General Discussion / Re: Standard gauge & O gauge track?

« on: January 03, 2021, 02:49:11 PM »

I saw, somewhere, an article on how to make up this track.
Saves room that is for sure.

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General Discussion / Re: Old Train store pictures

« on: January 03, 2021, 02:47:22 PM »

That is cool, I always wanted to get an old panel truck and redo it.
I like the nose on that old Chevy.
Couldn't paint that one.

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General Discussion / Re: Starting my 6th Lionel 1700 streamline Jr. Chrome & Orange

« on: January 03, 2021, 02:39:58 PM »

Same ones?
I don't have the locomotive. These were a save from the dumps. Free.

 

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Collector Corner / Re: An odd Postwar Trestle Bridge

« on: January 03, 2021, 02:20:27 PM »

Could it be a Colber?
This is one is, not the same but has rivets, strange yours has no upper crossbeams.

 

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Layouts / Re: Christmas Layouts

« on: January 03, 2021, 02:02:16 PM »

Those are Hallmark ornaments, just a few of many.
Diecast, they offer different ones every year.
That G scale is a Bachmann set, I do have a tanker now. A classic.
One year I might repaint it into a Christmas tanker.
But I like it now. It is a D&H with the moose on it. Green, slightly weathered.

Once again I have to figure out how to post a picture
Read thru Terry's link, I don't need to resize, what I need is a way to actually just post a picture.
I am used to doing it another way.
I did it yesterday somehow, I will add when I can.

Yes I see the wheels off.

LOL after I posted I see pictures  ha ha ha OH well, somehow they took.